Scouting Party
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Posted - 2011.07.29 20:11:00 -
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Speaking as someone who maintains multiple WH POS on behalf of an alliance I won't name:
W-space is hellishly good fun, providing logistical nightmares, pirates at the gates and relatively good isk. The legendary 2-jump to Jita thing amuses me. Why go two jumps out? I've had wormholes leading to Sobaeski, Perimeter, Maurasi, Ikuchi, Muvolailien and Niyabainen. I'm waiting to get one to New Caldari to complete the set. It's a fairly rare opportunity (as far as I can tell, wormholes prefer to go into low-activity systems, and never venture into hubs), but we took advantage of it when it happened. As you should.
Because, when you don't, you die horribly. Ignoring that hole to Niyabainen, or dc'ing whilst using it, and ending up with the hole out in Solitude hisec instead is a pain. Suddenly, your multi-billion isk faction fit tengu, or your billion isk cargo in a t2 indy starts to look somewhat fragile.
It's those 9 losec jumps. They make me sweat.
My point? Wormholes are not this ultra-safe zone that we're made out to be. Sure, in a wormhole we're practically untouchable. On average, I get 2 connecting holes that I don't know about a week per hole. That's 2 holes connected in from hostile wspace. About half of those holes are pirates. With cov ops, interdictors, and every other dirty trick in the game. Without a local chat, I can't see them until they land on my tengu's head and burn me out of my ship. It hurts.
Wormholes are not a safe option.
Compared to sov space, they're like a special kind of hell. That said, I have sov space down as safer than hisec.... basing it on experience of being part of a 0.0 sov alliance (which I quit, as college meant that my response to CTA was 'get lost, I have to be up for college in 6 hours, and the FC's were getting all arsey.)
To move on from the relative dangers of nullsec/wspace, I found the notion that wspace is somehow 'ruining ABC ore profits' hilarious. One corporation in my alliance has 25 miners sat around a POS, telling stories. They've not had a single grav site for nearly 2 weeks.
Am I supposed to believe that this large amount of ABC ores has debalanced the market?
Wormholes are not based on solid facts and figures. Over a month, a C1 wormhole makes between 200m and 1b. Depending on random chance. Over a month, all wormholes get between 0 and a practically infinite amount of grav sites, and hence ABC ores.
The day when nullsec can sit and claim that, sometimes, all their sov upgrades stop working, their star gates disappear, their cyno's stop working, they can't have more than 2-3 ships per pilot, and they have to go through permamently hostile space to get to where they want to be.. maybe then, just then, they can say that wspace has some effect on the ABC markets.
Makes me wonder if anyone has done the maths... many wormhole corporations lose more ships due to sleepers and pirates than they mine ore to make. How many wormhole corporations mine more than they lose, and how does this contribute as an overall figure to the market?
How many nullsec alliances, with their botting frenzies, have a similarly small effect?
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